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Post by danreefs Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:03 pm

My cyanobacteria outbreak over the past 3-6 weeks is killing me. But i think i know what to do to stop it. I have read website after website. All i have is a RO unit no DI unit. SO my Phosphate are .5 right out of the RO water Shocked I have a Coralife Pure-Flo II RO 25gpd unit not sure if i need to add a DI unit to it i can get one for 40 bucks. or just say the hell with it and get a new unit from http://www.thefilterguys.biz/ro_di_systems.htm and get a 75gpd unit. and i need a new skimmer to. I have a coralife super skimmer 65. It is to small for my 75g tank i'm sure it can not get the Elevated nutrient levels out fastenough befor the cyano sucks it up. So im looking at the MSX 200 or the Reef Octopus Extreme 200. But im not sure if i need the new skimmer or the RO/DI unit frist what do you guys think?
and the add part is my cyano grow's the fastest in my high flow zones Phosphate troubles 452363
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Post by GoingPostal Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:38 am

Well if your water has phosphates I would focus on that first. That said I've seen plenty of cases of people with no phosphates, super high flow, no nitrates, great skimmer, etc still fighting cyano. What is traditionally repeated over and over in this hobby is not always the case obviously. A di or new ro unit is a cheaper investment than the skimmer so I would try that first unless you can afford both but I would agree you need a bigger skimmer, couldn't tell you which is better. I've never dealt with cyano myself except a little in a tank I helped set up when it was new and then all I did was suck it out once and add a powerhead which did the trick.
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Post by blennieluvr Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:44 am

We had one of those coralife skimimers. It was good for our 55 but I can see that it wouldn't be sufficient for anything larger. I agree about upgrading your RO to RODI. It seems like just adding DI would be enough but I'm not totally sure about that. You can "skim" yourself by doing frequent W/C's (sucking out as much algae when you do) but you need good water going in in order for that to help.

Keep us posted.
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Post by danreefs Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:33 pm

I will keep you posted Phosphate troubles 313206
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Post by icereefer Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:17 pm

the coralife RO unit is fine I would just get another canister and add DI resin to it but myself I would dump using Coralifes media I used it and IMO it's Just there DI resin I could never get my TDS to zero using there resin, look over at the waterguys they have pretty High grade media and resin and better membranes
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Post by danreefs Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:21 pm

I do need new media for my ro unit i better call them on payday and order some stuff Smile
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Post by danreefs Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:42 pm

My new DI system addon and filter's are on the way Smile
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Post by seafishinmn Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:34 am

199.00 - OCEAN REEF + 1 FIVE STAGE 75 GPD RO/DI

  • All systems are made to order with clear 10" canister housings
  • Stage One NSF rated 5 micron poly sediment filter
  • Stage Two 5 Micron Matrikx NSF rated CTO/2 Workhorse carbon block
  • Stage Three 0.6 Micron Matrikx NSF rated chlorine guzzler carbon block
  • RO membrane 75 GPD Dow Filmtec
  • Stage Five refillable cartridge with color-changing DI resin
  • 100 PSI pressure gauge
  • Auto shut-off (Requires Float Valve or Switch To Work)
  • Membrane flush valve
  • Dual TDS meter
  • Quick connect fittings
  • Self Piercing Saddle Valve Water Supply Connection
  • Drain Connection
  • Filter wrench to make cartridge replacement easy


ADD ONS:
  • RO BYPASS VALVE $12
    DUAL DI SYSTEM - E-MAIL FOR PRICING

    100 GPD FILMTEC MEMBRANE OPTIONAL - $5



    $14.00 - CHLORAMINE FILTER UPGRADE

    TWO FILTER SET



    Dan, did you look at this RODI unit? I have this and love it.. did have to get the booster pump as I have well water and low H2O pressure. My water pressure went from 35-45 up to 100lbs with the addl. pump. I would have taken forever to get water without one.
    I would order from Jim at filter guys again. Excellent service, helpful,
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    Post by danreefs Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:32 am

    I called jim up and he helped me get the addon items that i need to make my ro unite way better should be here in 2 more days Smile
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    Post by seafishinmn Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:07 am

    Good Luck.
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    Post by danreefs Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:02 pm

    Ok new DI unit and filter's or up and running Phosphate troubles 313206
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    Post by kylesmoney Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:51 am

    Thats great!

    I dont know if this is good or bad to say, but I remember reading on RC that cyanno might very well have nothing to do with high phosphates and other nutrients in the way that hair algea does. If i had time, id search for you :-) Doesnt mean its true though, everyone on RC always states things like there known facts... That being said, never hurts to have a good RODI and skimmer!

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    Post by danreefs Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:07 pm

    I will get that cyanno kicked out soon. My corals are getting huge fast. Soon i will need to start fraging Smile On the down side my ro/di unit is making water slow as hell 10g in 24Hrs affraid Befor i added the DI unite it was more like 25-20GPD
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    Post by danreefs Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:31 pm

    I think i need to pick this up to
    http://www.marvelousproducts.com/Chemiclean-Red-Slime-Algae-Remover-p/chemiclean.htm
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    Post by seafishinmn Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:32 pm

    Dan, check out filter guys... they have a booster pump. I have well water and without a booster pump, I got maybe a maximum 40psi. ..when water in holding tank dropped, so did the pressure.
    By adding a booster pump, my water pressure stays at almost 100psi. I can do 14-20 gals per evening or more if i want. I drop my waste water lline in the washing machine and use that for washing clothes so its not all wasted!.
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    Post by danreefs Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:50 pm

    I may need that pump its so slow now :/ damn cold water
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